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In this first of a two part conversation with Dr. Arne Rubinstein, he and I discuss his book The Making of Men and his work with young men and boys in Australia for over three decades. Dr. Arne is a leader in the rites of passage movement of making boys into men, the founder of Pathways Foundation an Australian non profit dedicated to providing formal rites of passage for young men and girls.

For more information about Dr. Arne, visit his website as well as Pathways Foundation. To purchase his book you can go do iTunes or Amazon.